[Fsf-friends] [smc-discuss] Re: FSF should distance itself from undemocratic, illegal, immoral and unjustifiable acts of protest.

haynes davis haynesdavis at gmail.com
Tue Nov 18 16:27:50 IST 2008

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun at gnowledge.org>wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:05 PM, haynes davis <haynesdavis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> If CPI(M) supports Free Software, then why did the members of this
> >> party attended a MS marketing event? IKM and related stories are
> >> history. Here is the latest one:
> >> http://k-mug.org/content/LaunchReport.aspx
> >
> >  "FSF India or FSF has any untouchability to Novell as far as we know.
> > Dr Nagarjuna was invited for a program and he spoke. I was invited,
> > I participated.
> > Even if Microsoft gives us a slot we will go and speak.
> > There is no issue in that.
> >
> > I hope this answers your question."
> >
> The above quote was not referring to my question. but some other
> email, so it  was not clear if you are referring to my question on
> who was doing the double speak.

that was my reply to manilal.

i had replied in fsug bangalore list. I will copy that.

> who are the  FSF people are doing the double speak?
> Second, please do not identify FSF and FSFI.  These are two different
> sister organizations.

i referred to fsf only in Indian context, ie. fsf india. Sorry for the

Some people took part in the protest say Novell issue was due to the
ignorance of organizers, while some say the organizers concealed it. People
like Arun etc were at the conference, while some where protesting. Anivar
Aravind, Member FSF was a speaker at the conference and also a protester.


 And also regarding cpim hijack issue. Why dont fsf india make the things
clear. Do fsf india support those rumors?  If not, why does not fsf india
condemn such news, at least to show some gratitude towards cpim which
supports our cause?

to add some more

1.) http://www.mail-archive.com/fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in/msg00704.html

I am writing this mail since my earlier mail is being interpreted to
mean that the CPI(M) is trying to sabotage the Free Software Movement in
the country. That was not at all what I meant. Since I wrote it in a
hurry as I am on the verge of leaving on a rather longish journey. I
don't think a large party like the CPM would try to capture a small
organisation like FSF India. But the convention has several known CPM
leaders (such as Dr. Debesh Das) and CPM supporters (such as Sri N.
Ram). So it would appear that the people who are doing this have a CPM
background. Why they would want to create such a problem, god only
knows. I am sure the top brass in the party would never knowingly permit
such activities. I am sorry if I sounded otherwise.

V. Sasi Kumar
Free Software Foundation of India

2.)* http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/11/17/0120203*

James Mathew <james at gnu.org.in> writes *"This is an interesting story from
Kerala, India, where the ruling Communist Party organized a national
conference in its efforts to hijack the Free Software Movement, which has
enviable roots in the state. They got Novell to sponsor it. On the second
day of the conference, a few free software activists who displayed posters
against Novell were manhandled by the organizers and
typical of what is expected from them. Most of the snaps taken during
scuffle were forcefully deleted by the organizers, after seizing the
protesters' mobile phones. Still they couldn't delete all.


3.) what did arun do in his capacity as FSF Secretary to  dissolve the
situation during the Kochi conference. Was he organizing the protest? Was
the protest with the knowledge of FSF india?

4.) was anivar representing FSF?


പ്രവീണ്‍|Praveen aka

This clearly shows the organizers of this event are completely out of touch
with the politics of Free Software.

I am sure the community will reject any attempts by vested interests to
hijack the Free Software community.

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