[Fsf-friends] Fwd: [fsug-calicut] Some thing to reply..
Khuzaima A. Lakdawala
klak@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in
07 Nov 2002 12:09:34 +0530
Hi Jaisen,
Just tell Messrs Sadath and Sudhakaran that they've missed the whole
point about Software Freedom. Just point them to the philosophy pages
of gnu.org, especially to
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html. (I presume IKM employs
people with enough intelligence to understand the simple difference
between Swatantra and Sowjanya and hope that in their list of
priorities Swantantrata has a higher place then TCO, GUI etc.)
Regards,
Khuzaima
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:09:51 +0530, baiju <baiju@freeshell.org> wrote:
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> Subject: [fsug-calicut] Some thing to reply..
> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:03:53 +0530
> From: "Jaisen.N.D." <jaisu_vyas@rediffmail.com>
> To: fsug-calicut@freelists.org
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> Hai,
>
> Have any one seen the month's Sasthragathi? Not yet? Then please get
> it.. It have an article by K.Anvar Sadath and T.P.Sudhakaran, working in
> Information Kerala Mission. They tries to justify the Microsoft - based
> foundation of the project.
>
> They point out:
>
> - Software development is not a mental effort of only the programmers
> involved, but, it is a user - based effort in a human centered thought.
> So, the training of users, and the efforts which enable the users to use
> the technology have more importance.
>
> > I agree with it. Me too was a volenteer in IKM's OIK project (to
>
> computerise the panchayat election counting centers in 2000.) which was
> a big flop.
>
> - It is a business strategy to raise a particular technology as a
> solution for all type of issues.
>
> > They says that, the fsf movement and all the efforts of volenteers
>
> all over the world are simply a business trick. Should I say something?
>
> - Application of technology has many expenses.. They include
>
> - direct expenses
> - non-direct expenses
> - invisible expenses
> - short term expenses
> - long term expenses etc.
>
> so a technology should be chosen considering all these things equally.
>
> > Me too agree. Is the GNU more expensive than MS based things
>
> considering all these? Sounds interesting..
>
> - To surrender to the greatness of a particular type of technology,
> and tolerate with it's dominance is not scientific.
>
> > Here goes all the waters out.. Who are surrendering?
>
> - Unix is not developed for ordinary users. So the Unix is unreachable
> for ordinary users and it is the main drawback of Unix....... All the
> capabilities and drawbacks are common for all the OSs like Linux which
> are included in Unix family..... Unix and Linux are for the expert users
> who are working in powerful computers..
>
> > It is true that Unix was not developed for common users. But the
>
> train is running.. There was a time, which there were no GUIs for Unix
> and it's clones. But now situation is different. Almost all the
> distributions of Linux comes with a very user-friendly GUI which are
> equally or more better than any other available in the market.
>
> - Total Cost Ownership ( TCO ) includes the expenses of
> administration, training, technical assistance, other services as well
> as cost of software...... Open Source code doesn't win the market
> because, it feels costly in the observations based on TCO.
>
> > Is it? Where is the Survey / Study reports?
>
> - Windows has a simple and easy GUI..
>
> > Linux has more than one simple and easy Desktop environments..
>
> - Technical assistance for Linux is limited. Big Projects can't go
> depending on volenteering help services.
>
> > Then how the govt. projects of many countries of the world like
>
> China or Brazil goes?
>
> - Open Source is only a business trick to get dominance in the market
> using some values..
>
> - RMS is neither tries to connect the bad effects of patents and
> copyrights with capitalistic authority and it's values ...
>
> - Inside the framework of Capitalism, no any future for humanity,
> equality, or honesty in long-terms through FSF.
>
> - C-Dit gets Microsoft products in discount rates.. after the
> agreement with them.
>
> - The agreement is not a new thing. National Informatic Centre and
> many State Govt agencies have experience in these type of agreements.
>
> > I know that The Mail server of NIC for the students and teachers
>
> (http://edumail.nic.in) Runs on Microsoft's Outlook Express. But is it a
> model to imitate?
>
>
> ............... and a lot. What u think? Can't we reply?
>
> -jaisen.
>
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